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The ultimate form of an abusive relationship, it is one that as long as you believe it you are never able to get away, never able to leave, never able to distance yourself from that judgement.
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Thank you for the message. It seemed to be timed perfectly because lately I have been wanting to vent about “agnostics” as it is. It seems that having a conversation with them can be frustrating at times. Most agnostics I consider to be an alley in the fact that they are generally non-believers but we run in to a complete disconnect with the fact that they refuse to actually acknowledge that they are non-believers. They instead seem to want to exist in this limbo state where “I don’t know” is a valid answer to any question, regardless of how illogical it sounds to say “I don’t know”.
There are huge misconceptions about what exactly an Atheist is, the same misconception your father apparently holds on to. It seems to be an error I am constantly trying to correct. Atheists do not state “I know for certain that no god or gods of any kind, including deistic gods, exist.” Even the most outspoken Atheists will admit that we can not fully disprove a deistic god exists because it is simply impossible currently, but people don’t worship deistic gods and we don’t worry that we can’t fully disprove them. The idea of a deistic god or no god at all has equal ramification from a practical day to day stand point. Atheists do not make a claim of certain knowledge, Atheist do not rely on anything faith based, it is much more about a lack of belief or believability. For me the best definition of Atheism is found in the Oxford dictionary, other definitions seem to lend themselves to this ill conceived definition of Atheism some cling to.
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Thank you for the message and that is definitely what I tend to hear from most people in Europe. It seems in England and France in particular there is the occasional religious drama but overall Europe is much more relaxed when it comes to what people believe. Statistics often report that there is still a fairly high percentage of religious believers in many European countries but I think even those believers that are still around are more relaxed about it and keep it as a personally held view, not something to be discussed and dragged in to the public forum.
If things could be like that in the United Stated there really wouldn’t be as much issue. I am American and at my core I do absolutely love the United States but there are so many times that I can’t stand many Americans. So many of us have such an inflated ego, most of us have been raised up to believe that we are all beautiful wonderful people and that all opinions and views are valid and should be respected. We’ve been coddled in to believing we are more important in all aspects than what we really deserve to feel. As a result the world often stereotypes Americans as obnoxious, loud, opinionated, ignorant, and generally rude. It’s unfortunately a stereotype many people deserve.
The point being the way that these conflicts are handled in America is disgusting. We see it each and every time when Atheists stand up for their rights. Christians yelling “What about my rights? It offends me to not have Christiany stuff plastered everywhere!” and they actually believe that in their minds. They actually believe that they are so wonderful and special that the world should accommodate them and bend to their will. They believe that since Christianity is what they believe, anything that attempts to curtail the social dominance of Christianity in America is an attack upon them and their religion. So they lash out, often with vulgar, ugly, and down right pitiful attacks.
Of course this isn’t everyone but it is amazing to see how quickly an otherwise normal individual can lose all sense of logic and reason when religion gets dragged in to the conversation. It’s almost sad to see how quickly someone you may otherwise consider extremely intelligent will start slinging out tired and incorrect religious defenses. It is as if people have to shut off a certain part of their brain to even defend religion. It’s a whole realm where proof, reason, sense, don’t matter…at least that’s often been my experience with it in the United States.
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As long as man loves a phantom in the sky more than he loves his fellow man, there will never be peace upon this earth; so long as man worships a Tyrant as the “Fatherhood of God,” there will never be a “Brotherhood of Man.
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So you would just like to think that generally people don’t think? Except for you maybe, right?
I get so sick of the tactics that religion use to try and put their beliefs on the same grounds as everyone else. There is a huge difference between science and religion. To pretend as if there isn’t is complete and utter ignorance. Science is a process, it changes and updates with new information, it is testable, it’s verifiable, it’s proven. Where as with religion you have to deny science to preserve your faith.
The fact that you’re more willing to listen to a bunch of men in robes reading from a 2,000 year old book may have something to do with your lack of understanding. The fact that you have more than likely never given science a legitimate chance to explain the complexity and wonder of the world. Instead you decide to go into the circus tent and listen to the ring master regale you with tails of mysticism and magic. You’d rather hear fantasy stories of men made from dirt than explore the complexities of DNA and RNA.
Simply because you are unable to understand evolution certainly doesn’t make it untrue. It simply reveals your inability or not wanting to understand. It has to do with your short sightedness in not understanding how an object of complexity can come about through time and chance. Even with all of that the human body is certainly far from perfect. Ever hear of wisdom teeth? A long left over remnant of our ancestors that is no longer needed in our body but we have not evolved away from as of yet.
The Paley’s watch argument is faulty. The idea of saying that we would see a watch and know it has a designer even if we had never seen a watch before. Even if someone was able to see a watch and have no understanding of what it is but somehow realize it was designed they would start to take it apart. They would look at the component pieces, they would look at how the gears function and come together to make moving parts. With sufficient work and technology that person then would be able to recreate that watch. Then it would simply move to an argument of ignorance, who made the first watch? Where did the first watch come from? In human terms, where did the first human come from? Through evolution we know, humans weren’t put together as we are now from the beginning. Instead we started from much simpler beginning, like the smelting of metals to make gears. The watch maker did not create the metal from nothing, he took existing pieces and combined them in the right way. Time and evolution has allowed the same to happen from the simple beginnings of early creatures.
Also, as Christians, many rarely admit their ignorance. They revel in it. They love being ignorant of science and the real answers to the mystical question they ask. They shun science as you do in hopes of remaining ignorant to knowledge that would make them question God and the bible. They look to suppress information and ideas that they feel conflict with their faith. Christians don’t admit ignorance often, but they sure seem to love it in many cases.
So yes, I do know that not all people that are religious are brainless. I have never said they are. Religion itself though does encourage ignorance. Religion doesn’t allow someone to have a better understanding of the real world but a more narrow and close minded one. You seem to be revealing a lot more about what you don’t understand, than what you do. I admit there is a lot I don’t know, but I’ll look to science for real answers, instead of dreaming up my own.
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